'We have to face climate change' in the prism of a world 'wrecked' by conflicts and injustice

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As COP30 opens for the more than 190 countries participating, it's unclear what exactly world leaders would discuss and whether countries would even try to negotiate a final agreement. It's a hard sell in a year of fractious global politics. Brazil has suggested that countries focus on smaller efforts that don’t need consensus, after years of COP summits that have celebrated lofty, but empty promises. For deep insight, Eve Irvine welcomes Fabio D'Andrea, Climatologist and Director of Research at CNRS, and Head of ENS Geosciences Department.