Japanese have 'greater awareness of security issues and a greater concern over actions by China'

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Hundreds ‍of Japanese ​panda lovers bid an emotional farewell to the country's last two giant pandas, Xiao ⁠Xiao and Lei Lei, as they left Tokyo's Ueno Zoo for China on Tuesday. Their departure leaves Japan with no pandas for the first time in half a century, and the chances of getting a replacement are poor, with Tokyo's relations with Beijing at their lowest point in years. We speak with Kristi Govella, senior adviser and Japan Chair at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies.