'Great moral courage: The French thought they knew de Gaulle and suddenly realized they didn't'

François Picard is pleased to welcome Julian Jackson, British historian, author and, Emeritus Professor of Modern French History at Queen Mary University of London. His biography of General de Gaulle laid the foundation for France's two-part biopic "De Gaulle". And on the heels of this surprise box office hit, Jackson's book is now out in French:. "La Chute: France 1940". He returns to the occupation of Paris and extraordinary collapse of France in the summer of 1940. Rather than treating defeat as inevitable, he focuses on all of the uncertainty gripping France as the war continued spreading across Europe. And his book fully acknowledges, "it was a disaster. It was a catastrophe. It was a dramatic military catastrophe". And from this catastrophe, Charles de Gaulle emerged, an almost improbable figure, the man who refused to accept that France had been definitively defeated. His evolution is inseparable from the extraordinary relationships he forged and fought over with the Allied leaders around him. With Churchill, there was admiration, rivalry and mutual dependence: two formidable personalities who needed one another but rarely saw the future in quite the same way. With Roosevelt...